Op Big Bear

[Claypool]

http://www.iedf-airsoft.com/ Its happening this Saturday the 24 in Big Bear. Look on inland empire defense force for more info. Totally free and there is still space to sign up.

[ICE]

They were at Code Red last time I was there promoting this game.
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[Claypool]

Well cool Im guessing ill see you there.

[Oberst]

Actually, no, you wont see us there unless you can show some proof that this venue is legal. I dont want to be playing in county land or national forest and have my stuff confiscated by Park rangers or Sheriffs!!!
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[Claypool]

http://iedf-airsoft.com/ Look on this site for more details about the Op
Contact I.E.D.F. staff on this site for info about Op....Oberst you ask last time we talked where this guy advertises his games so you need to check this site out. This is where he advertises.

[Oberst]

How about a direct link to the info, instead of to the general site? Or just cut and paste it, I did see the map to this play area and it looks to be National Forest land, which is unlawful to use for airsoft.
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[Claypool]

http://www.iedf-airsoft.com/forum/index.php?topic=301.

Heres the info on the Op, for any other questions that are not answered here you need to send the I.E.D.F staff an E-mail. There very helpful and would be glad to answer any of your concerns.

[Oberst]

Since I really dont want to sign up to a board, try cutting and pasting the info, otherwise I will simply remove this thread completely
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[Claypool]

Would you like me to ask the I.E.D.F staff whether or not they have permission to be there since you dont want to make an account.

War continues to rage on Afghan soil. A small American ground force has invaded and secured enemy headquarters in an isolated mountain cave. While searching the enemy HQ, the team finds important intel which would drastically reduce the combat capability of the enemy and potentially end the war.

Upon transmitting their discovery to the theater commander, he dispatches a helicopter to extract the team with the vital intel in hand, which is now considered to be extremely sensitive cargo. After the team is extracted, the helo began its ascent as it headed back to command; unexpectedly, one enemy sniper grabbed his rifle, took a deep breath and fired a shot that hit and destroyed the tail rotor. He is able to chamber another round and takes one final deep breath before pulling the trigger again, delivering a fatal hit to the head of the pilot.
"For Allah!" he softly whispers with satisfaction.

Conditions aboard the helo have deteriorated and one of the American soldiers with no previous flight experience pulls the dead pilot from his seat and tries to maintain the flight path as steadily as possible. However, the American with no experience piloting a helicopter cannot maintain control without a tail rotor. The helo spun out of control violently for over half a mile before crashing with no survivors. During the descent, the remainder of the team desperately tries to eject the intel and it fears it might be destroyed in a crash. The team is able to transmit a radio call to command to let them know what they were doing and the seriousness of their desperate situation before they finally crash. with no survivors on board.

Now, the main package has become the remains of the helo and the scattered intel. The sniper who watches the helo go down realizes what the Americans had collected and watched as they had tossed it out of the crashing helicopter. He hurries back to his secret base to tell his commander. Both sides are desperate!

Each commander is dispatching ground forces to the region to locate and secure the helo and its scattered contents. The only problem is no one has the exact coordinates of the crash-site and absolutely no clue how to reacquire the valuable intel which was tossed from the helo. They each have a general idea of the crash location, but are equally, if not more, concerned with the materials scattered all over the landscape.

The objective is to take what they know and use whatever means at their disposal to recapture as much as possible before their enemy does. It is now a no holds barred race against time, it's not about who is more powerful, but is about who wants it most. Neutral British mercenaries, also in the region, don't know exactly what is going on, but believe where there is action there is money, so they make their way up to the area to offer their services... Will the war continue? Or could it possibly end? We will only know at the end of the day.

When: Saturday July 24, 2010 1600-2100 hours (afternoon start, full moon)
Where: Big Bear, CA http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=34%C2%B0+17.825'N,+116%C2%B0+48.919'W&ie=UTF8&ll=34.296508,-116.815782&spn=0.029533,0.05579&t=h&z=15
We will be starting this OP at 1600 sharp! Please do not be late, registration and chrono will begin at 1430, OP briefing at 1530.
Proper introduction is required to play in this game, if you have not introduced yourself, click on this link: http://www.iedf-airsoft.com/forum/index.php?board=9.0

Note: British mercenaries (PMCs) have no magazine limits on their load out, they are allowed to run hi-caps and drum mags on non SAW weapons. They are also a neutral force unless hired by someone. False money and points can be earned throughout the game by completing objectives and collecting pieces of intel, this can be used to hire the British PMCs for a certain length of time. PMCs are not to be engaged unless they engage first.

THIS IS AN AGE 18+ OPERATION
(Some stipulations apply, please contact rebel@iedf-airsoft.com for questions)

OA MAP: http://www.iedf-airsoft.com/maps/bigbearmap.pdf

Rules of Engagement:
White rags and red rags are required, no rags no play.
1 BB hit rule
Surrender Rule is allowed
No Hit Calling
No Shooting below 15 feet (surrender)
Parlay/Truce Rule in effect
Capture Rule not in effect (All Leadership roles only)
POW rule in effect (All Leadership roles only)
Bribing rule in effect
Trigger control - no Hosing!!
Dead players do not talk!!
Maximum FPS for Full Auto Rifles/Pistols (Rifle): 420 FPS with .2g's. Minimum engagement distance is 15 ft.
Maximum FPS for Semi-auto and Bolt Action only (Sniper): 520 FPS with .2g's. Minimum engagement distance is 60 ft.

Hit Rules:
1 BB hit rule applies
Any part of your body is a hit (including gear you are wearing).
Weapon hits do not count (weapon must be in use, side-arm in your holster does not qualify for this rule)
Knife-kills and surrenders are considered hits

Knife Kill Rule:
Must be performed from behind or the target's flank (sides)
Must be close enough to touch or tap the person (less than 3 feet)
Target must be unaware of your presence
1 knife-kill per person ( 1 person cannot knife kill a whole squad )
Tap or verbally notify your target that they have been knife-killed

Surrender Rule:
Must be performed from behind or the target's flank (sides)
You cannot surrender from the front or when you are converging with your target
Must be performed with an engagement distance of 15 feet or less
Target must be unaware of your presence
Notify your target(s) by yelling "Surrender" or "Bang-Bang - you're dead!"

White Rag/Red Rag rule:
If you are hit, knife killed or surrendered the first time; a team mate must come to your aid and tie your own WHITE RAG to your body to simulate a wound; this will allow you to continue fighting (instant regen); There will be no bleed-out time
If you are hit, killed or surrendered the 2nd time; you must apply your RED RAG and proceed to the nearest designated regen point.
once you've reach the regen point - you can remove both WHITE and RED RAG and re-engage

Regen points:
There will be a stationary regen point and each squad will have a mobile regen point which they can carry with them. In game advisors will be able to touch you back into the game as well.

Load out Rule: READ CAREFULLY
All non sniper weapons must shoot no more than 420 fps, no exceptions.
1 Designated SNIPER rifle allowed per squad. Semi-Auto or Bolt Action Only: M700, M14-DMR, SVD, SR-25, M57, M324, M200, BAR10, M58, Type96, M82
MANDATORY! Bio-degradable BBs only This game will be played in the US National Forrest
1 Designated SAW class weapon per Coalition squad: M60, M249, RPK
Hand Grenades/rockets are allowed in this OP
Unlimited Mid or Standard (non-winding) Magazine per non SAW player, OR a limit of 2 hi-caps (winding). NO drum/c mags allowed on non SAW weapons.
GBB/AEP are allowed; (must conform to FPS rules)
FRS/GMRS radios required for all Team Leaders
Compass and Map of the AO
Use of GPS devices authorized (set to MGRS)
All players must have some sort of hydration device (camelback, canteen, etc)
NO PYROTECHNIC of any type allowed (smoke, flare, incendiary, etc.)

Embedded Game Control/Advisors and officials:
There will be embedded game control/advisors (EGC/A) and officials out there on the field. Please give them your undivided attention when putting out pertinent information. IT WILL be cridical for your missions. Do not get into an argument with any EGC/A or official on the field. If you have a problem with one of them, take it up with your unit and bring up the problem to Game Control.

If you would like to be an EGC/A or official please let me know on your registration form. Along with that please send me your credentials in order to see if you qualify. I am looking for high standard Integrity minded individuals. So, if you feel you are up to it, let me know.

Radios:
EVERY team/squad leader, EGC/A and official are required to have radios. Usage of radios will be limited. Unless there is something important to be passed down by radio, don�t be on the radio. It should be used as an audio device only. If you have a head mic it might be a good idea to bring it to keep the noise discipline down.

Sign ups only, NO WALK ON'S will be allowed to play

Uniform requirements: No mix-matching (except for OP forces), full uniform required (For US forces and British).

US forces: Army: ACU, Multi-cam, 3-color desert; Marines: digital desert (DESPAT), digital woodland (MARPAT),
OP forces: traditional Afghani dress, mix-matched woodland, jungle tiger, desert tiger or any other type of camouflage not included in US forces. (Preferably mix-matched, no matching top with bottom)
British Mercenaries: PMC style, baseball style hats recommended, jeans or solid color pants etc. NO camouflage patterns what so ever.
If you have any questions regarding uniforms, private message me.

Update as of July 6, 2010
Everyone participating in this Op, from players to referees, will be required to have these items:
1. Whistle
2. Glowstick - Color does not matter, for emergency purposes only.

These items are for safety reasons; in the event you are lost or injured and need assistance, having these items will allow for emergency/search personell to locate and assist you.

The following two items, while not required, are highly recommended:
1. flashlight
2. flashing red safety light - This is used instead of a dead rag for night games (example: http://www.gadgettown.com/E00796.html)

When you register for this event on the day of the event, you will be required to check out prior to leaving the game so we can ensure nobody is left behind.

[Oberst]

This still tells me too little, How much land are we talking about? Is it all privately owned land? is it national Forest land? If so then simple permission from some ranger isnt enough, National Forest land has strict rules, and airsoft guns are considered firearms and you cant have firearms on the land.

I said this to you the day you told me about the games up there.

I spend too much money on my gear and guns to have them taken away because I played at an illegal venue.
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[Claypool]

Wow

[Oberst]

Yep!! You could have found yourself in alot of trouble here if they had held the op and the forest service had caught you!!! Everyone would have been facing fines, confiscation of their airsoft guns and more!!!

I went to the advertisement they put up in socal and flagged it for the admins there to check it out. ORCA responded and he and myself set about looking into the matter. Xanthais also got involved and Officer Mark Snyder (Note the IEDF kids spelled the man's name wrong in the bogus letter they created, which is scary in itself that they went to such depths which could get them into even more trouble since they basically forged a Government document!!!)


Trust Uncle Oberst never to steer you wrong on an event being legal or questionable!!! I do know how the California system of where you can and cant play works.
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[Claypool]

Ok Uncle Oberst lol I wont doubt you again.